I hate being in the seeming minority that still likes/wants origin stories

Modern Comic book movies just aren't doing origin stories anymore and everyone is begging for and wanting it, but I personally really don't like it.

I do understand people have seen the origin of these iconic characters before and we have had multiple movies of them, but like for certain characters, we haven't seen their origin on the big screen for decades.

Spider-Man was literally the only character I understood why we weren't doing an original story for. It has been 12 years since Man of Steel, 10 years since Fan4stic(which I feel like a large portion of the community didnt even watch) and depending on how you want to count it, 20 years since a year one Batman origin story.

Now, this is not to say these stories are not good or great. Some of them even soft reference the origin in some way. I just dont get the desire to not do an origin story when the reasons just sounded sufficient to me.

I dont want to see Batman go through like 90% of his characterization off screen just cause seeing a batfamily together would be cool. I wanna see a batfamily, just not immediately. I would prefer prefer to see the loner orphan turn into this man with a large family.

I am not against keeping the Matt Reeves Batman separate from the DCU but if it was between that or a year 40+ batman, I would choose the Reeves Batman all day.

It also just feels like we are never gonna get an origin story again. I hope when Marvel's does X-Men or a Wolverine movie, it is an origin story, because origin stories are fun and Wolvierine deserves a quality origin story movie.

Maybe this is on deaf ears and I am just insane, but I am getting the feeling origin stories are just gonna be dead for like 10-20 years and no one cares.

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Ranos1312025-10-01 16:41

You seem to be forgetting quite a few movies in there. Origin story movies since 2008:
- Ironman - 2008
- Thor - 2011
- Captain America - 2011
- Green Lantern - 2011
- Amazing Spiderman - 2012
- Avengers - 2012
- Man of Steel - 2013
- Guardians of the Galaxy - 2014
- Ant-man - 2015
- Doctor Strange - 2016
- Deadpool - 2016
- Suicide Squad - 2016
- Wonder Woman - 2017
- Justice League - 2017
- Aquaman - 2018
- Into the Spiderverse - 2018
- Captain Marvel - 2019
- Shazam - 2019
- Shang-Chi - 2021
- Eternals - 2021
- Black Adam - 2022
- Wakanda Forever - 2022
- Blue Beetle - 2023
- Madame Web - 2024
- Thunderbolts* - 2025

We have literally had at least one origin movie every year since 2011. The MCU has done a bunch of origins as TV shows rather than movies for the last five years. And none of this includes character origins that were part of other character’s or group’s movies.

If it’s character who have had their origin story done multiple times, they aren’t doing them much because it’s just old.
- Superman - We’ve had two movies (Superman - 1978 and Man of Steel) and numerous TV shows and cartoons.
- Batman - Two movies (Batman - 1989 and Batman Begins) and numerous TV shows and cartoons.
- OG Spiderman - Two movies (Spiderman and Amazing Spiderman) and numerous cartoons.

And from what I’ve seen, those are the only big main heroes whose origin stories have been skipped. Yes we had a bunch of heroes in the new Superman movie whose origins we didn’t get and I’m not a fan of that. But that is the only egregious use of it in recent years.

PhilRobinsonMusic2025-10-01 20:23

I also LOVE origin stories!

Seeing the unique set of compelling circumstances which transition a character from being an ordinary person to being the one-in-a-million extraordinary individual on a separate path with a special purpose, is extremely interesting to me. I've often found origin stories to be much more compelling than all the stories that come after.

FruitsPonchiSamurai12025-10-01 22:37

They're not very original, though. Unless it's a brand new hero, or a character that's a characiture/parody, all the story beats for the origin will be pretty much the same. Anything like character motivations, antagonists, or any specific details can be established/explored outside of the origin and usually are.

abysmallybored2025-10-01 21:56

How are Avengers, Justice League and Thunderbolts origin stories?

Ranos1312025-10-01 22:09

The origin of the group. Same as the Guardians of the Galaxy and Suicide Squad.

sunset_ltd_believer2025-10-03 11:29

Avengers is definitely not. But justice league has cyborg's origin story, and thunderbolts has sentry's.

Helpful-Idea-44852025-10-04 03:16

Avengers definitely is. For a team film it’s about the origin of the team, how they got together. Avengers definitely fits that bill.

bigbrainnowisdom2025-10-02 08:15

Did.. did you just put it madame web there???

Ranos1312025-10-02 12:59

Yes. Last I checked, it was an origin story.

BigMax2025-10-02 17:01

Great post. We've had SO MANY origin stories! It's weird to imply we haven't.

There are a lot fewer heroes without them. MCU spiderman, but we ALL agree we didn't need that again with several other origin stories in recent years. Batman skipped it a few times, but again... we've had a boatload of his movies. We don't need to see his parents die again. Superman... same thing... we all know superman, where he came from. Even this last movie that 'skipped' it still had some scenes with both sets of his parents that laid a bit of his origin groundwork.

And as you point out, a lot of 'origin' stories are also group origins. The forming of the Avengers, Thunderbolts, etc are great origin stories on their own, even if it's not single character focused.

Head_Acanthisitta2562025-10-01 20:01

Absolutely love origin stories. Not doing them and having montages instead is fucking lazy storytelling

Chiefmeez2025-10-01 21:40

This is extremely context dependent

euphoriapotion2025-10-03 01:08

and would you watch the 2-hour movie of Krypton's destruction, Clark landing on Earth, being adopted by the Kents and... Nothing else? Maybe him discovering his powers when he was a teenager, but again, there would have to be a time skip, and is it really an origin story with multiple-years time skip?

Head_Acanthisitta2562025-10-03 01:21

I sure as hell would watch that. Leave the lazy montages for a cheap Netflix show

Helpful-Idea-44852025-10-04 03:20

Well then you’d be the only one and the movie would totally bomb.

ReplicantOwl2025-10-01 20:19

If there’s already been a movie about it, or if it’s obvious (like the mutants) then I don’t see a point.

TexasPeteEnthusiast2025-10-03 03:53

The origin for mutants isnt so much how they got the power, but how they learned to live with the power they got.

22LOVESBALL2025-10-01 21:47

I guess I’ll just comment on the Batman part. Ideally I would love to see a Batman origin story that leads all the way to the Batfamily but I just think it’s unrealistic. Like it just takes a good chunk of time to make one movie and by the time you get around to introducing the BatFamily, the actor playing Batman will be ready to move on or some shit

ChrisRevocateur2025-10-01 21:55

Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man's origin stories are so well known that even non-comic fans know them. They absolutely can be skipped.

ModernBass2025-10-02 08:18

They can be, doesn't mean I don't want to see them though. Personality of course, but I do get why some people might not

Melodic-Cycle39942025-10-02 10:03

Origin stories for these characters make only sense if they ever go into an else worlds type storyline e.g. doing an absolute Batman type movie

brettcb2025-10-02 22:33

Pretty much this, or you summarize it early on. I liked what Gunn did with Superman, gave us the relevant information about this Superman in the first few minutes then moved on

nobookbans2025-10-03 01:16

Well, to be fair, as a casual comic book movie watch back in the day I honestly had no idea how batman became batman. I knew his parents were shot but didn't know how that's translated to batman. I honestly thought he was bit by a bat

ChrisRevocateur2025-10-03 01:19

A *radioactive* bat.

FruitsPonchiSamurai12025-10-01 22:32

Origin Story and a story that introduces a character are not the same thing. We don't need to see the same "super genius/talented person discovers and learns how to use their powers" a million times. Especially since anyone who knows of the character will most likely be perfectly familiar with it. Skipping that part of the story allows the writers to focus on more visceral elements of a plot and present a much more interesting narrative.

Captain_Cringe_2025-10-03 15:48

By far the most interesting cases are ones like Spider-Man: Homecoming and The Batman — movies that are not origin stories in the sense of “person discovers their powers / trains to become a superhero”, but instead stories about that superhero learning a valuable lesson that deeply informs the kind of hero they become.

The Batman’s journey from vengeance to hope is a thousand times more interesting to watch than his parents getting shot for the fifth time.

rnnd2025-10-04 01:48

I mean with Batman movies, they are usually never origin stories. I think Batman begins is the only one. They all usually start when Bruce is already Batman. His parents being gunned down is usually in flashbacks.

randmperson22025-10-01 23:41

It just boils down to how many times we’ve seen that particular origin story, is all.

Within the past twenty years since comic book movies became much more mainstream, there have been three different Batmans, three Supermans (two more if you count TV), three Spider-Mans, and three versions of the F4.

At a certain point, just get to the good part. I don’t need to see the millionth shot of falling pearls.

ContentAssumption2042025-10-02 07:38

Including the FF isn't really fair.

In the last 20 years, we've only seen three poorly made F4 movies. The characters have made no major appearances in animation since the mid-2000s either. Those 3 movies (not even a trilogy, just 2 movies and a reboot) have pretty much been the only FF media of the last 2 decades. Most children today have no idea who these characters are, or why they should care. My main problem with First Steps was that they had characters in-universe constantly gas up the FF as the coolest heroes ever, without actually showing why they are cool to the audience, but I digress.

Their last film came out 10 years before First Steps, a movie no one actually saw.

Their origin has been shown twice, and was told completely differently both times.

The last FF origin movie, more than 5 people watched, was released 20 years ago. That would be like if the MCU decided to skip Cap's origin because it had already been shown in the Matt Salinger Captain America film from the early 90s.

What I'm getting at here is, we've never seen their origin done WELL before on the big screen. There is potentially a really interesting story to be told there like there was with Skinny Steve Rogers, a part of the lore that was typically glossed over in past adaptations to get to the Captain America stuff. In that movie, the origin **WAS** the good stuff.

knightress_oxhide2025-10-02 01:27

TV has done some of these decently. Gotham was good and so was Green Arrow.

ShirtEquivalent69172025-10-02 03:10

I think everyone gets it at this point and no one wants to have to wait 3-4 years just for an origin movie we have to get through for another 3-4 year wait to actually get to the stories that haven’t been done yet because they always waste a movie on an origin story everyone knows.

Myhtological2025-10-02 06:12

I’m fine with them for characters we’re not familiar with. But ghost rider, wolverine, fantastic four, were know this.

Evening-Carrot62622025-10-02 09:46

When Spider-Man (2002) came out, I watched it and thought, "Do we really need to see his origin again?"

It wasn't until years later that it clicked that he hadn't really had a big-screen origin movie before then. I was just so used to the comics that it felt overdone already.

So I can see for non-comic readers, an origin movie certainly wouldn't hurt. That being said, I think most people know about the big characters. Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, I'd certainly rather get straight into the story then see them retold again and again.

ddanuu2025-10-02 11:40

The difference is these reboots are coming out not that many years after the ones before meaning seeing Batman’s origin story again after Ben Affleck already showed it like 4 years prior. If a Spider-Man movie comes out 15 years after the franchise has been left dormant then they will 100% give us an origin film and so one for these other characters

BaffourA2025-10-02 12:39

Seeing as franchises get cancelled and rebooted all the time, I'd rather filmmakers let us see different stories and points in a superhero's journey than always starting with a reboot.
I mean we're on our third Spiderman and since he started out younger he's progressed even less than the others. There's certain stories we probably won't get to see before Tom Holland quits.

SnooTomatoes47342025-10-02 16:44

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Vanilla_thundr2025-10-02 18:47

I don't think origin stories are necessary to relate to a character or understand their motivations, personally. We went like 50 years without a James Bond origin story.

But if I never have to see crime alley, or uncle Ben's death, or the destruction of Krypton again, I'll be happy.

Good_old_Marshmallow2025-10-02 22:07

It comes down to two things in my opinion:

1. Is it anything new? A lot of origin stories have already been done or aren't particularly original. They are so cookie cutter that there are multiple deconstruction or parody movies about them. One even made by James Gunn. If the origin is a new take on something I think yeah that would be cool. The first Thor is I don't think anyone's favorite MCU film but a cool thing about it is its origin was super different both in story telling beets and concept as a high science fiction fantasy blend with a fish out of water rom com twist.
2. Is the origin what makes the character interesting or an interesting place to start their story? You give Wolverine as an example but my counter point would be his backstory is not what makes him interesting. In fact its supposed to be a mystery which is what makes his origin interesting. He's a who knows how old wildman fighter veteran of who knows how many wars and his memories are fuzzy. That's the Wolvie that gets dropped into the story and makes him an interesting anti hero. I don't know if he's improved starting with his origin and I also don't know if his origin is comparatively interesting to him just being an anti hero/hero on the x men. The question worth asking is, is the origin worth telling because its a good story or because its about a character that has good stories. Spiderman has a cool origin worth telling, but its been done too much, but its an example of one that I think sticks around because as a standalone story its good. Captain America, his origin is cool, but he's not an interesting character in it. There's a reason he spiked in popularity in his second movie, the cool thing about him is he's a man out of time. His backstory makes him cool and its a cool backstory but its not in and of itself an interesting story at all really compared to the rest of his lore.

mr_oberts2025-10-02 22:45

Not everyone is begging for it. I’m not. Less spoonfeeding bullshit, move on with a story.

Briollo2025-10-02 23:26

I have no problem with origin stories, if, like any movie, it's done well. There are some characters that no longer need those stories told: Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, Hulk. However, if you make a Spider-Woman movie, you'll need an origin story. Same with Iron Fist (the show did such a poor job) or Nova, or Squirrel Girl.

euphoriapotion2025-10-03 01:02

When it comes to marvel, I feel like we do get an origin story for most characters? Tony, Steve, Thor, Shang-Chi, Quill (kind of), Carol, Wanda, Scott Lang, Strange, T'Challa... All of those (and more) got origin stories.

I wish we saw Natasha's origin story earlier and more detailed, same with Clint. But Spider-Man? He was done so many times already.

And then we have DC: Aquaman, Shazam, Black Adam, various Superman and Batman movies, Wonder Woman...

And there are superhero shows all the time with origin stories. DCTV shows (Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Black Lightning, Legeds of Tomorrow, Constantine, Batwoman, Stargirl) were all origin stories not just for titular characters, but their teams and everyone around. We STILL get so many origin stories (Eternals, Hawkeye, Ms Marvel, Thunderbolts\*).

nobookbans2025-10-03 01:15

I'm also the only person who apparently still likes the reference to their bad comic book costumes

Dlh20792025-10-03 06:37

The mcu has a whole bunch of origin stories.

Hell even Spider-man is a 3 movie trilogy as an origin story to the broke and solo Spider-man we know.

jschem162025-10-06 20:26

Ill tell ya what really turned me away from comic book orgin movies was Joker (Jauquem Phoenix). A character that never, ever needed an orgin story got one, and made some of the most character destroying choices I've ever seen.

But also, I just don't want to see the same stories retold again, with only slight differences. We don't need to see Thomas and Martha Wayne die (maybe ever again) to understand Bruce's character.

An Orgin story like Iron Man works because that character was not so well known at the time - thus for many people, it was a fresh new story. If they make a new Iron Man movie but showed me the same story of a rich playboy genius who gets captured by terrorists and discovers his true calling, I'd be really disappointed.

But I get you, I wouldn't be very stoked to see a bat family movie out of the blue, but I would see a Robin orgin movie, even if its set in a Batman movie.